@Noflaps said in #50:
> ... even at 45 ply the computer (in the given position) supported a
> very "classical" treatment of the center, with black's control of the
> center coming from pawn occupation, and not "from afar" as the
> hyper-modern approach taught us also to value. ... my early
> exploration of Nimzo's book -- with the help of a computer-- makes
> me wonder if even today simple brute-force, very high-ply evaluation
> may not yet be sufficiently deep to really see through to the
> complete value of a hyper-modern "control from afar" philosophy,
> even though the computer's brute force evaluations seem much
> more dependable later on, when we are well into the middle game. ...
A few days ago, I saw a disagreement over whether the position after 1 e4 c6 2 d4 g6 3 Nf3 was appropriately evaluated as 1.2 or .4 in favor of White. In view of the game, www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1943839 [Event "Tata Steel Masters"] [Site "Wijk aan Zee NED"] [Date "2019.01.26"] [White "Jorden van Foreest"] [Black "Shakhriyar Mamedyarov"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [ECO "B10"] [WhiteElo "2612"] [BlackElo "2817"] 1 e4 c6 2 Nf3 g6 3 d4 ..., .4 seems to me to be more likely to be appropriate.
> ... even at 45 ply the computer (in the given position) supported a
> very "classical" treatment of the center, with black's control of the
> center coming from pawn occupation, and not "from afar" as the
> hyper-modern approach taught us also to value. ... my early
> exploration of Nimzo's book -- with the help of a computer-- makes
> me wonder if even today simple brute-force, very high-ply evaluation
> may not yet be sufficiently deep to really see through to the
> complete value of a hyper-modern "control from afar" philosophy,
> even though the computer's brute force evaluations seem much
> more dependable later on, when we are well into the middle game. ...
A few days ago, I saw a disagreement over whether the position after 1 e4 c6 2 d4 g6 3 Nf3 was appropriately evaluated as 1.2 or .4 in favor of White. In view of the game, www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1943839 [Event "Tata Steel Masters"] [Site "Wijk aan Zee NED"] [Date "2019.01.26"] [White "Jorden van Foreest"] [Black "Shakhriyar Mamedyarov"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [ECO "B10"] [WhiteElo "2612"] [BlackElo "2817"] 1 e4 c6 2 Nf3 g6 3 d4 ..., .4 seems to me to be more likely to be appropriate.